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Stuffysays's avatar

What a very interesting article. Thank you.

It drives me up the wall the way we are constantly told there is a Far Right element out to cause trouble and all those self-righteous fools with their Socialist Workers Party placards neatly printed out with silly slogans they can't explain are the saviours who are defending democracy. It's like we all fell through the looking glass!

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robert höschele's avatar

Dear Andrew, what a great piece of dedicated journalism and thoroughly crafted article. Thank You! I have forward it to the chef of staff of the german Newspaper DW Demokratischer Widerstand and hope that Your splendid work will find there the needed positive feedback and will be (if You wish) published there.

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Xena's avatar

A very thoughtful piece of writing.

IMO, figures like Farage , Trump, Robinson etc. They are allies of the deep state war machine. It's a very easy pattern to see throughout history. Hatred and Division is created with false idols even Assange.

We have seen the same game time and time again. Those who speak the real truth and could be a real threat are silenced . Robin Cooke for instance or David Kelly,

even Jeremy Corbyn to a milder extent, because of his renationlise policies, when he was labour leader.

Robinson , Trump etc etc false idols. That's why they get the MSM. Attrntion, they serve a purpose and are well rewarded .

Look what had happened to Bridgen , completely destroyed.

Looking at the freedom movement, it has become the victim of divide and conquer exactly because the MSM promote these false idols so you will still vote and have belief in a system of corrupt gangsters.

It's not really a freedom movement anymore is it, when people can't even agree to disagree and have a civil conversation. Divide and conquer , still seems to work sadly.

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Andrew Barr's avatar

It would be great if someone who sees himself as part of the 'anti-Fascist Left' were to post a comment here to explain politely why he disagrees with my argument. It may yet happen.

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Xena's avatar

That would be of interest 👍🏼

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Had no idear 'bout Cable Street (bein' a yankee) but such brilliant perspective here. Interestin' how the "parties" have changed (we're all topsy turvy now are we not?) but the designated enemies are the same in this panto (soitenly us joos)--as is the "play" actin' of the "gubbamint"... i.e. the police supportin' the antisemites back then....and now (where I hear in London crossin' the street whist jooish is considered an act of provocation...oy). Struck by the similar portrayal of those that seem fairly sound an' sane as fascists/right wingers today or (as then) radicals, enemies of the "schtate"... SIGH. Hence, poor Tommy Robinson who seems ta me a sane, kind good egg the "authori-tease" there wanna crack. I hope he survives the ordeal...

Here'bouts I've always been 100% first amendment (once a lefty but I left the left years ago, it bein' a freak show in NYC--my until recent hometown..). Re Skokie (a bit like Cable St but far later...) I fully AGREED with the ACLU fight ta let the Nazis march (ironically the call to permit the march was led by jooish lawyer Allen Dershowitz). NOW I dunno... I'm still fer the first but when the group wants to annihilate another group (us chews, what else is nu?)...mebbe it's not so good. AND YET all the ADL censorship has me all riled up--it's just plain wrong--as is outlawin' (here in the US) "all" speech that might be deemed anti-semitic (indeed doin' so IS fascism).

Gad Saad (who is just so spot-on) uses the word "marinated" ta describe the way the haters are steeped in hate... via permitted lingo, speeches, websites, an' these folks just bein' indoctrinated an' not exposed ta anything else. Like meat where the tenderizer sinks in an' softens the composition.... I see a lotta marinated young'uns (in fact that's why we pulled outta NYC with the kids--a teen, a young adult--in tow). It got that ugly.... an' we lived right next ta Williamsburg, ground zero fer the haters... Not so sure now that such "marinatin'" is a good idear to allow... but again, torn...

TORN 'tween limiting the hate an' the spread of it... and our 1st Amendment. Today I kin see how NOT limitin' such hate (as you have in the UK) makes things a LOT worse.

So far we yankees are monitored (I'm sure on social mee-dia but I have none)--but not yet arrested fer speakin' up. We'll see how long that lasts...

Meantimes, greatly appreciative of yer writin' Andrew...keep 'em comin' (more often if doable).

An' thanks too fer recallin' for me ‘Lo Ta’amod’ which my fam always translated for me as "do sumthin' dummy don't just stand there!" (i.e. help yer neighbors, set that example). I'm SURE my gran'parents who knew hebrew & yiddish fluently would'a translated it far more elegantly as you did here--in terms of not bein' a bystander...but the short-hand version I received from my fam--was enuf! (soived the purpose!)

I too try ta do my part as a keyboard warrior (lol)... and a lifetime learner (hence my tin "thinkin' pot")...

One last thing... this year I realized that tho equatin' anti-zionism with anti-semitism is conflatin' the issues--in practice...I did NOT wanna admit it--they are nearly the same an' I say this as a HUGE critic of BBGun an' the ongoin' doin's in Israel (now in a truly existential crisis imho). Whatta mess... an' now we're all in it too... kickin' screamin' an' tryin' NOT ta be bystanders!

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